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Tuesday, 23 October 2007
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26 comments:
yooooooooo, this is sad and hilarious. wow, false teachers are a trip and a half. juanita, repent please. you are NOT called of God. what mysticism and demonic activity. Lord help us all. Amen.
I can't even stand to watch it... chaotic!
it's a shame.. and chaotic!
Straight foolishness. That's all I have to say about that.
It's sad really.
barstowmama
Its strange that you dont have a main stream platform to preach YOUR false doctrines. How dare you come against every known preacher out there. YOU foolish and I hope that you repent and send apologies to all of these people that you are slandering or else as a REAL Prophet I speak exposure to YOUR MESS. How dare YOU. I dont need scripture to tell you that you are off and sinfully wrong. the scripture says that the lerrer killeth and thats what you are doing but suprisingly you are killing yourself. In hell you will lift up your eyes. Son you are a nobody compared to these giants in the faith and you are no match to them. One thing Ive learned is keep your mouth off of GODS People. And I can be assured that you wont post this comment because you are a foolish insecure coward. Just wait Ill show you exposure give me until the end of 2007 and you will know who I am.
wow, the person above must not even be in the Faith for typing such foolishness. "giants in the Faith"---please. these false teachers are begging to be exposed by true disciples of Christ. Their lies and leading of people to hell are fueled by people such as yourself. Maybe you have "itching ears." Let the Word of God scratch that for you.
Wow.. for poster two posts above. All I can say is "Ignorance is bliss".
For "a true teacher", take all of that energy and use it to research the people you call "REAL prophets". It's enough to make one sick...and sick of this foolishness.
To "a true teacher"
Actually scripture is exactly what you need to rebuke brothers and sisters in the making, your words were full of anger which for " a true teacher" may have been avoided. You called them foolish which may not have been wise for " a true teacher" You mentioned eyes being lifted from hell by the brethren who posted the comments which angered you. Is that not Judgemental of you "a true teacher" who said these people are going to hell, who has done judgement upon them already. We can`t wait for you to reveal your self as you said, by the end of 2007 for some reason!!!! we are curious to find out who you claim to be, what we know for sure is you are certainly not Holy Spirit "The Great Teacher" as your words are full of Pride, Anger, Judgement and for "a true teacher" How can you compare people by saying they are a nobody. Oh dear "a true teacher" Pride goes before a fall. We pray that you meet THE TRUE TEACHER before you fall. Much love to you!!!!
yes there are false prophets! the bible plainly states this. but who are we to judge what is God and what is not God. God can judge. personally i believe its some good church. are you filled with the holy spirit? i have witnessed stuff like this. im not sayin i believe everything thats goin on in the video but there is NO LIMIT WHATSOEVER to the power of the holy spirit. all we can do as christians is pray for the lost and walk with God everyday. what type of christian are you to judge and talk about something of this. be a christian, dont judge! do what you have to do. worry about you and God. not everyone else. people worry so much about how everyone else is being a good/bad christian, but in the mean time, we are slowing fading in our walk with God when we do this.
what makes you people better than God, that you can judge how the holy spirit works.
the holy spirit works through that person and God. not all of you and that person and God. its a special relationship with God that no one can judge or mock.
goodluck in your christian life if all you can do you judge.
i pray for you!
man, its sad to see that people are so duped by stuff that is seemingly "godly." I pray for believers who have not matured in their Faith and cannot recognize deception and demonic activity. May God bring us all into more and more of His Truth, knowledge, wisdom and understanding. Amen.
Is there a cure for stupidity and foolishness? why do people believe more in pastors and teachers and not in Christ alone?Theres only one sheperd who love us so much that he died for us and all he ask is that we believe in him...he doesn't ask for money nor fees....
You know, if it wasn't for that podium on the pulpit, I wouldn't know that this was a 'church' or that these people were in 'worship.'
No one mentions GOD, Jesus or the Holy Spirit. I don't think I even heard an Amen or Hallelujah. Anybody see a Bible? A cross? ANYTHING that indicates that this isn't an R. Kelly concert gone bad?
What is going on here? -- It is a former servant of the LORD elevating herself and stepping on the word of GOD. Don't people realize who they are attracting when they fall out of audience with GOD?
Ms. Bynum is not completely lost (she must have her conscience in serious submission) and GOD can still use her... HE'S gonna give her one heck of a wake up call. She'll be on the threshing room floor then for real -- and it won't be on some lakeside front... it'll be in the very public eye.
i am so sad, the people of God are now ''disorderly'' nothing like the fruit of thje spirit at all, i am fed up, i stopped goin to church 12months ago, after we had a guest from America screaming and getting everyone emotional for no reason and turning what usually is a fairly harmonious church into a money show, i love God and desperately need to fellowship, i am so alone now cos i feel too manyu churches are not true. I just want to study the word, apply and live in this world teaching others and being decent.
Let us all that say we love God be careful....the world is watching.
Blessings...
Beverly
Paul said that we should not stop meeting together as brethren. Please do not stop going to church because of what you see. Go to church, pray for believers. Most believers start well but some end up falling astray. Let us love them and raise them up in prayer. Prayer works. Something I have learnt in my life. So please do not stop going to church. I always tell myself that no one and nothing will stop me from God's plan over my life. Do not let anyone or anything stop you. As for the true teacher, I feel your frustration, but I am not going to say whether it was the right thing to do or not because I remember Jesus was angry when He entered the temple and drove out all the people who did wrong therefore I do not agree or disagree with what you did but believe God knows what made you write like that. As for the clip, I am not sure whether it was put up there for awareness or something else. I am not sure. Second, it is a clip for 1998. That is like a long time ago. So if I were to hear that someone saw different colors of dust that had fallen on his shirt so I' m I to assume that he is lying because there is no where in the bible that they had such experiences. What if someone said that the Holy Spirit carried me from States to China just to speak to someone and them got me back, would I look at it as impossible. No. It happened to Phillip and the Ethiopian. What am I saying, we are not to limit God because if we do, we will not see the whole of His glory. Again, I am not saying what is in the clip is wrong or right.
Interestingly, the Bible does tell us of the need to test who are the false teachers, and who are not. And how we do that is to check with the Bible if all that is in line with the Bible. So Im not sure if its a case of "judging" the people in the video, but rather a case of checking if what these people do is Biblical or not. It's about discerning more than judging. For me, I question why the Holy Spirit has so strongly befall upon this lady to the point that it seems like she has the power to bring us access to God since we know from John 1:18 that only Jesus makes God known to us and how we know Jesus is through the Word. Also, if we read John 14-16, we will note that the Holy Spirit points us to Jesus, who points us to God and that Holy Spirit doesnt work in ANY way, but in ways that point to Jesus (ie. the words of Jesus). If you do a check on the history of the doctrine of the Holy Spirit, it's strange that no one has been questioning its power until the 1930s where the charismatic movement has been taking place and there was an apparent focus on the gifts and presence of the Holy SPirit. To all, whether you're of the charismatic movement or not, I urge you to check what your pastors/ people say with the Bible to see if they're teaching the truth that is in the Bible. =)
Unless you are a Spirit filled believer, and understand what you sense when you watch something like this, you will not understand what may be attempted here by this minister. I have never been to a JB service, though I have listened to some of her tapes. While I have no idea where she's "gone to" in the operation of her gifts, I will say that I would rather be in a service and the minister try to reach as many of us as possible--as the Spirit moves, rather than in an "orderly" service where nothing is poured out. In this clip the woman is encouraging worship and praise to higher levels and she seems to receive an unction to lay on hands and give out of her depths. This is not a planned, rigged up event from the evidence of the tape. Charles and Frances Hunter at www.cfhunter.org often operated in huge Healing Explosions and they didn't always go down and lay hands on each person in an "orderly fashion." Kathryn Kuhlman was not always "orderly" in the move of the Holy Spirit either. However, the evidence is in having been there and what was truly evidenced in the lives "after the touch."
Unless you are a minister with the gift of laying on hands, there really is no room for arm-chair quarterbacking. You get up in front of thousands and move in the Holy Spirit (not according to a program) and see how to do.
I don't see anyone in the video running from this minister. The only people I see attempting to stay both out of her way, yet follow after her at the same time is her ministry team. You have to understand who the people around are.
They receive satanic annointing and the mark of the beast from Bynum´s hands to their foreheads.
Rev. 13,16
Here's what the Christian eyewitnesses of Azusa had say about it when it
appeared in the late 19th century and early 20th century:
G. Campbell Morgan described the Azusa Street activities as
"the last vomit of Satan"
R.A. Torrey declared that this new Pentecostal movement was
"emphatically not of God, and founded by a Sodomite."
H.A. Ironside said in 1912 both the holiness and Pentecostal movements were
"disgusting. . .delusions and insanities." . . . "pandemonium's where exhebitions
worthy of a madhouse or a collection of howling dervishes," were causing a
"heavy toll of lunacy and infidelity."
W.B. Godbey said of Azusa Street participants and he claimed the movement was
the result of spiritualism
"Satan's preachers, jugglers, necromancers, enchanters, magicians, and all sorts of mendicants."
Clarence Larkin had this to say
"But the conduct of those possessed, in which they fall to the ground and writhe in contortions, causing disarrangement's of the clothing and disgraceful scenes, is more a characteristic of demon possession, than a work of the Holy Spirit. From what has been said we see that we are living in "Perilous Times," and that all about us are "Seducing Spirits," and that they will become more active as the Dispensation draws to its close, and that we must exert the greatest care lest we be lead astray."
All quotes from the book "From Holy Laughter to Holy Fire" by Michael L. Brown, pages 197-198.
Absolute Chaos. SMH.
ok,so you want an explanation, obviously the Holy Ghost has come upon her and she is releasing the fire of God over people !
Saints, discern prayerfully, and be careful not to condemn people because of their exuberant demonstrations. A church is also a hospital for hurting,depressed, and discouraged. I see nothing here that would condemn a person according to the Word of God. Pray for the person that feels called of God, and do not condemn. Christ died for their salvation as well as ours.
this is the abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel the prophet
Although the video does not show, I'm very interested in what was preached and taught. Those people had to have been told something to react in that way. Rather it was a lie or truth. Does anybody know? Please post if you do. Thanks
Although the video does not show, I'm very interested in what was preached and taught. Those people had to have been told something to react in that way. Rather it was a lie or truth. Does anybody know? Please post if you do. Thanks
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